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After living with BudKups over 1 year with my Pax 3, the secret to using these so they actually work the way I would expect it to every time is to pack the Budkup as tight as you can get it. Make it literally a solid mass rather than a light pack. It hits like a freight train when you pack it firmly. I load the fresh load to the top of the Budkup then pack as hard as I can to give me about a 1/2 Budkup load. Turn it upside down and nothing should fall out. Place the cap on the Kup then position in the Pax 3 oven and make sure you push it in all the way. I run my Pax at 390 degrees and I’m very satisfied with the results. A 1/2 load in my BudKups done in one session puts me where I want to be...